Shadowraptor

I was thinking about an array actually.. If I put another force field power into the array, I could somehow make 2 forcefields, though at decreased strength right ?

The first part can be done as Force Field (Extra: Affects Others [+1 to get both others & yourself]; Power Feat: Progression [for up to eight people around you, all touching you]), or the Affects Others [+1] and Area/Radius extras to get a bigger group (who don't need to touch you). The second part (if only protecting a group of folks some distance away, and not yourself) can be done with the Affects Others (+0 to change from "Personal" to "Touch"), Range/Ranged, and Area/Radius extras. To do both simultaneously, you'd need... I'm not entirely certain. I was thinking about an array actually.. If I put another force field power into the array, I could somehow make 2 forcefields, though at decreased strength right ?

hmm.. I hadn't looked at it that way I guess... sometimes we have to stick to the system instead of logic, I can understand that :-D still working on my character though.. it's frustrating to have so much possibilities...

But looking at the extra's and power feats, it would seem that a force field, is literally a force field. It goes both ways.. bullets can't come into the force field, but they also can't come out.. unless you take a power feat.. or what about the flaw permanent ? it suggests that if you can't turn it off, you get trouble trying to eat something, since food can't penetrate the force field..

I think I understand what you mean, let me sum it up to see if I'm correct: I could use the ranged extra to increase the range of my force field, but it's center point would still be on myself. I can't make the center point of the force field somewhere else then ? So that means I would always be in range of my own force field, which is why it's pointless not to include myself ? because I basically want to be able to shield a small group of people around me, but be able to project a force field say 1000 yards away to protect a group of people there...

Tssk tssk, I would have expected a referee to see the use of a force field which I could use to protect a group of people from a distance.. protect or imprison of course :-D :super:

Ghehe, something I was already expecting of course .. :-D However, when giving the area extra, does that also mean I can shield others, not including myself ?

Base cost for Force Field is only 1p/rank, so why the 3X ?

That's what I figured tnx ;-) Sorry for my bothersome questions, but trying to check out my options here :-D So.. suppose I want to be able to use telekinesis to lift up multiple items, and/or be able to crush those multiple items, while still maintain control over what I lift/crush... can't I just take the Area Extra, and apply the Selective power feat ? For example, I want to be able to lift everything up on the street in the area I designate, except for my buddy who was standing in the middle of the area... Also, would this be possible?: Pyschic Powers Array: *TKinesis 10 (Damaging, Perception; Subtle, Alternate Power x2) *TKinesis 10 (Damaging, Area; Subtle) Total Points: 44pp This way, the Alternate Power's Array power's cost do not exceed the base power's cost right ? Swapping out Perception extra for Area extra keeps the costs the same.. not counting the alternate power feats as cost for the original power itself of course..

If I wanted to change my forcefield into a field that surrounds me and the people standing next to me (but not touching me) and a force field I could project to shield other with, maybe even shield 2 groups at the same time (though probably with reduced effectiveness) wouldn't that make the power insanely expensive.. I'm also a little puzzled with power feats and extra's I'd need to apply. Anyone have some basic template with which I could work.. ?

I don't think the 2nd alternate power is needed. The damaging extra itself states that dealing damage with telekinesis is optional... It states I CAN do damage with it, so that would mean it's optional right.. ?

Hmm, what would Telekinesis with only the Area extra do ? lift everything in the area at once ? I would make it more like this: TK 10 (PF: 1 Alt Power) * TK 10 (Damaging) * TK 10 (Damaging. Area) (Total cost: 31pp, if I'm not mistaken)

Well, I think the character concept itself is quite challenging. Especially considering you're totally dependent on other to survive probably. Unless you use your gift to attract a lot of worshippers who worship you for your power, and protect you, you'll be dragged all along the battlefield, be it for good or evil.. definately an interesting character concept, though I wonder how long a person could keep up with playing a character like that, you must be a real masochist..

Yes, well, I don't Have to use the extra right ? I can choose to activate it without the extra, and when I decide lots of people need to get pain, I can use it with the extra.

If I wanted to give my Telekinesis a Damage extra, but would want the character to be able to do that damage to an entire area, could I accomplish that with the "area" extra ?

Of course, but tnx for the reminder.

Yeah, I understood that very well, tnx a lot. But I could combine Telekinesis/Telepathy, since I'm not really expecting them to be used at the same time... Maybe even flight included in the array.. But I'm more trying to think up a PL6 hero character, but there's so many cool abilities to choose from ! :bunny:

so, all the extra powers, are that cheap to put into an array ? You basically pay 1 pp for a complete extra power... (although of course, with the drawback of not being able to use them at the same time) didn't think an array of powers would be that cheap.. but It's clear now, tnx :clap:

I understand that, but you're giving an entire new example again, while I'd just like to understand how the 4 powers described above in an array cost only 23pp ? Because I still don't understand that calculation, and I'd like to understand it, cos I'll have a better understanding of the system..

I think I'm in love as well... :-S

Only 23pp's ?!?! Could you breakdown the costs seperately for me ? I'm really confused now. Or maybe I'm just confused about Arrays. I was already wondering how alternate powers are purchased, but I hadn't expected them to be just Power Feats..

Well, I would just want 1 form which to shift to.. when I get angry.. which will probably not happen very often. So that would mean I just need 2 seperate characters right ? Anyway, working on a PL6 character while I ponder some more about my PL10 character anyway, I'm in no rush. I must admit, I find the UP rules for creating powers a bit more complex than the original rules. I'm having a hard time understandig when I have to take something as an alternate power or as a power feat.. or as an extra ? For example, if I wanted to include the following powers as a group (Think it's called "Array" ?) how would I do that most efficiently.. ? Telekinises, Telepathy, Flight, and Force Field Also, what are the drawbacks of an array over taking the powers seperately ? Wouldn't it mean that when I have a set of powers in an array, that I can't activate them simultaneously ? I would like to be able to Fly, have a force field, AND use my telepathy at the same time...

Btw, I was planning on giving my character an alternate identity, like when he gets angry or enraged for instance.. I thought the Evolutionary Shift power (p.155) looked quite interesting. Could you tell me something about that ? from what I understand, you just get to design a 2nd character (minus the evolutionary shift points) with all new abilities and stats ? .. I was thinking about making a totally psionic entity with it, with telekinesis, telepathy, and perhaps some more..

Ghehe, well I've played a wolf-born werewolf (Lupus) in a White-Wolf Werewolf campaign once. Which can be quite interesting if you think I eventually used the car-radio as a weapon cause I thought it was a bomb.. but mostly, people will think you're a power-player if you create a character with no family nor relatives. .. of course, I am still a power-player, but I still need to have an interesting character concept to enjoy playing the game...

Well maybe I'll surprise you. I've typed only 3 pages of background so far :-P Hmm, I'll look into it, tnx Any more suggestions ? :-D