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So I'm helping with a build that's kind of complicated and I wondered if this formatting is correct or not.  I based it on HGM's Hellhound and tweaked it with colors to make it easy to read at a glance.  Is this good/bad?  Did I mess stuff up?


(Note: All numbers are Base/Shaman/Bear)

Abilities: 6 + 0 + 10 + 0 + 0 + 0 = 16PP
16/16/26 (+3/+3/+8)
Dexterity: 10/20/10 (+0/+5/+0)
Constitution: 20/20/30 (+5/+5/+10)
Intelligence: 10/10/10 (+0/+0/+0)
Wisdom: 10/20/10 (+0/+5/+0)
Charisma: 10/16/10 (+0/+3/+0)

Combat: 10 + 10 = 20PP
Initiative: +0/+0/+0
Attack: +5/+5/+9 Melee, +5/+10/+4 Ranged
Defense: +5/+10/+4 (+5 Base, +0/+5/+0 Dodge Focus, +0/+0/-1 Size), +0 Flat-Footed
Grapple: +8/+8/+22
Knockback: -5/-5/-15

Saving Throws: 5 (1PP / Fortitude) + 5 (1PP / Reflex) + 8 (1PP / Will) = 18PP
Toughness: +10/+10/+15 (+5/+5/+10 Con, +5/+5/+5 [Protection, 7 Impervious])
Fortitude: +10/+10/+15 (+5/+5/+10 Con, +5/+5/+5)
Reflex: +5/+10/+5 (+0/+5/+0 Dex, +5/+5/+5)
Will: +8 (+0/+5/+0 Wis, +8/+8/+8)

Skills: 50R = 13PP (1PP = 4 Skill ranks)
Climb 2 (+5)
Craft(Artistic) 10 (+10)
Intimidate 1 (+4)
Knowledge(Art) 10 (+10)
Language 2 [Default: XX, XX, XX] 
Notice 4 (+4)
Search 4 (+4)
Sense Motice 4 (+4)
Survival 8 (+8)
Swim 2 (+5)

Feats: 1PP

Powers: 76 + 5 + 1 = 82PP
Immunity 1 (Protective Tattoos; Environmental Condition[Cold]) 1PP (Magic) 

Protection 5 (Protective Tattoos;) 5PP (Magic)


Transformation (75PP Array; Feats: Alternate Power 1) 76PP (Magic)
  BP: Alternate Form 15 (Shaman Form; 75PP Container) 75PP (Magic)
      Enhanced Wisdom 10 [10/75PP] 
      Enhanced Charaisma 6 [6/75PP] 
      Enhanced Knowledge(Arcane Lore) 10 [2.5/75PP]
      Enhanced Knowledge(Theology & Philosophy) 10 [2.5/75PP]
      Enhanced Medicine 12 [3/75PP]
      Enhanced Reflex 5 [5/75PP]
      Enhanced Handle Animal 4 [1/75PP]
      Enhanced Feat (Animal Empathy) [1/75PP]     
      Enhanced Feat (Artificer) [1/75PP]
      Enhanced Feat (Attack Focus, Ranged 5) [5/75PP]
      Enhanced Feat (Attractive 1) [1/75PP]
      Enhanced Feat (Dodge Focus 5) [5/75PP]
      Enhanced Feat (Evasion 2) [2/75PP]
      Enhanced Feat (Leadership) [1/75PP]
      Enhanced Feat (Luck 1) [1/75PP]
      Enhanced Feat (Master Plan) [1/75PP]
      Enhanced Feat (Ritualist) [1/75PP]
      Enhanced Feat (Spirit Empathy) [1/75PP]
      Cold Control 10 (Spirit of the North; Feats: 5 Alternate Powers) [25/75PP] (Magic)
        AP: Create Object 10 (Ice Sculpture;) [20PP]
        AP: Paralyze 10 (Flash Freeze; Extra: Alternate Save[Fortitude]) [20/20PP]
        AP: Dazzle 10 (Snowglobe; Affects Visual Senses) [20/20PP]
        AP: Snare 10 (Ice Coffin;) [20/20PP]
        AP: Blast 10 (Hailstorm; Extras: Area(shapeable); Flaw: Action 1) [20/20PP]


    AP: Alternate Form 15 (Werebear Form; 75PP Container) 75PP (Magic)
      Enhanced Strength 2 [2/75PP]
      Enhanced Constitution 6 [6/75PP]
      Enhanced Intimidate 10 [2.5/75PP]
      Enhanced Navigate 10 [2.5/75PP]
      Enhanced Search 10 [2.5/75PP]
      Enhanced Notice 10 [2.5/75PP]
      Enhanced Climb 10 [2.5/75PP]
      Enhanced Swim 10 [2.5/75PP]
      Enhanced Survival [2.5/75PP]
      Enhanced Feat (Attack Focus, Melee 5) [5/75PP]
      Enhanced Feat (Crushing Pin) [1/75PP]
      Enhanced Feat (Improved Critical, Claw Strike 2) [2/75PP]
      Enhanced Feat (Improved Grab) [1/75PP]
      Enhanced Feat (Improved Grapple) [1/75PP]
      Enhanced Feat (Improved Pin) [1/75PP]
      Enhanced Feat (Iron Stomach) [1/75PP]
      Enhanced Feat (Startle) [1/75PP]
      Enhanced Feat (Takedown Attack 1) [1/75PP]
      Damage 2 (Claw Strike; Extras: Penetrating 5; Feat: Mighty 1, Alternate Power 1) [9/75PP]
        AP: Damage 2 (Claw Swipe; Extra: Area, Cone; Feats: Mighty 1, Progression Decrease Area 1 [10']) [6/8]
      Growth 4 (Bear Size; Flaw: Permanent) [12/75PP]
      Impervious Toughness 7 (Thick Hide) [7/75PP]
      Super Senses 4 (Bear Senses; Danger Sense[Olfactory], Darkvision, Tracking 1[Olfactory]) [4/75PP]
      Super Strength 2 (Bear Strength;) [5/75PP]


Drawbacks: (-0) + (-0) = -0PP


DC Block

ATTACK              RANGE      SAVE                           EFFECT
Blast 10            AOE 100'   DC 25 Toughness                Damage
Snare 10            100'       DC Reflex/Staged 20            Snare
Paralyze 10         Touch      DC Fort/Staged 20              Paralyze
Dazzle 10           100'       DC Fort/Staged 20              Dazzle
Unarmed, Base       Touch      DC 18 Toughness                Damage

Damage 2            Touch      DC 25 Toughness                Damage
Damage 2            Cone 10'   DC 25 Toughness                Damage
Unarmed             Touch      DC 23 Toughness                Damage


Totals: Abilities (16) + Combat (20) + Saving Throws (18) + Skills (13) + Feats (1) + Powers (82) - Drawbacks (0) = 150/150 

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Shaman is not an inherited trait, it is effectively a descriptor for 'wizard/magician.'


A good key for magical stuff is this:
It can be hereditary, but it is not genetic, within setting.  Codifying magic, or applying logical things to it starts to push it out of 'Magic.'

This seems to be a 'I want to do everything build,' or a 'Olopi Army Knife,' where the sheet can handle anything thrown at it, cause HEY it's got a form.

Also, I tend to be askance regarding Arrayed Enhanced Charisma.  How does it arrive there?
The Shaman form lacks the necessary Communication power to converse with spirits that are not Manifest.  Nor any Super Senses that will detect them, which makes me go back 'Olopi Army Knife.'


If you want the forms to look different you need Morph.

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After looking at ur points TA I can see what you mean. I'm thinking maybe making Jack more of a druid type is a better representation of what I had in mind. The Bear is part of his magic as a Shaman, but so is the cold. Mechanically can prolly be better represented will work on it. Thank u for ur help (:

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Realistically this build, and prior conversations we've had, represents an issue a lot of new players have, which is trying to do too much.  Your character has to have weaknesses, has to have things they can't do.

While we do allow for rebuilds, this is a drastic one in such a short window after creation... is problematic.

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I am guilty of this too.  A lot was me trying to help him based on what he was chatting to me about.  I think we are going to look at his sheet to make Base Jack a little more durable and leave it at that.  Perhaps even just use some PP.  However, want to say mea culpa... or however you spell that or use that phrase.

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